{"id":342,"date":"2007-12-01T02:42:52","date_gmt":"2007-12-01T02:42:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fatsquirrel.org\/bologs\/vng\/jobbies\/"},"modified":"2007-12-01T02:42:52","modified_gmt":"2007-12-01T02:42:52","slug":"jobbies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fatsquirrel.org\/oldfartsalmanac\/jobbies\/","title":{"rendered":"Jobbies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s one that will surprise non-Americans: after a job interview in the States it is customary to send &#8220;thank you&#8221; notes to the people who interviewed you. No really! And they have to sound grateful and excited to the point of obsequiousness. In twenty four hours I had three job interviews and so I&#8217;m expected to send three sets of thank you messages. After I sent the first one I felt so ridiculous that I couldn&#8217;t bear to send another. Luckily, one of the companies had such tedious requirements for new recruits that I asked my poor recruiter to tell them to get stuffed. Boom &#8211; no need for a &#8220;thank you&#8221; there either. In all honesty I was already irritated with them even before we spoke; they had asked me to answer a bunch of vague questions <i>on paper<\/i> which took about three times as long to complete than if they&#8217;d asked me in person. Nonetheless when they called me for a &#8220;technical interview&#8221; I was quite pleased; at least it showed they had some idea about employing technical people.<br \/>\nBut the technical interview actually consisted of a fifteen minute chat during which I was told they were going to ask me to write some software to prove I knew PHP. He briefly outlined the task during the call and it sounded effectively like a &#8220;hello world&#8221; type application . But then it all went a bit weird.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;When I was asked to do this task I spent about 30 or 40 hours on it&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p> he told me. I couldn&#8217;t believe what he was suggesting. <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;But you don&#8217;t have to spend anywhere near as long on it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p> he added redundantly. After further questioning I inferred that rather than being a straightforward problem solving exercise I was supposed to use it as a method of writing an extraordinarily bloated piece of bragware that proved I could write OO\/MVC code. He also wanted UML diagrams&#8230;of this &#8220;hello world&#8221; type app.<\/p>\n<p>Let me tell you, if I asked a programmer to produce some code that did something simple like that and he even suggested producing a UML diagram, I would dispatch him from my office with a caterpillar boot lodged in his ringpiece&#8230;and then I&#8217;d invoice him for the missing shoe.<\/p>\n<p>After the call I seriously considered attempting this pointless task until I realised that in fact he could fucking well fuck off and take his fucking stupid attitude with him. It wasn&#8217;t like I was applying to Google! This may sound like an overreaction but there were other things about the company and his attitude that, even given my normal lack of discretion, I hesitate to mention here.<\/p>\n<p>Still &#8211; I have a second interview lined up with one of the other companies on Tuesday and a technical quiz to undertake for the other this weekend. I don&#8217;t mind proving I know what I claim to know, in fact I prefer it as it demonstrates that the company has a clue. But I do object to being asked to spend several hours (it would probably have take around 4 hours if I&#8217;d done a decent job of it) jumping through stupid hoops to prove I can bloat code. <\/p>\n<p>One of the companies has an interest in social networks and so, without thinking it through, I mentioned that I&#8217;d written a Facebook app. Obviously, they wanted to see it&#8230;so I I showed them&#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.fatsquirrel.org\/software\/ploppy\/\">Ploppy&#8230;<\/a><br \/>\nIt was a potentially foolhardy gamble, but I think it paid off; I&#8217;m still in the running and the feedback to my recruiter was all positive. Even though they&#8217;ve seen that I have a sense of humour on a level with an 11 year old boy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s one that will surprise non-Americans: after a job interview in the States it is customary to send &#8220;thank you&#8221; notes to the people who interviewed you. No really! And they have to sound grateful and excited to the point of obsequiousness. 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